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martin to -- from george zimmerman to trayvon martin and the only person who has testified in this entire case as to whether or not that gun stayed holstered the entire time has been the man who is charged with the murder -- >> right -- >> of trayvon martin. >> john kelly, what do you think of that? >> going to what zimmerman's options are. he could have stayed in the car, left the gun in the car, followed 30 feet behind him. we don't know how the confrontation started. we assume trayvon through a bunch. that could have been a head butt when they collided. got brought up, put in his chest, fired cleanly one shot during that struggle if he was yelling for help. >> judge alex -- >> there were a lot of things in george zimmerman's version i disagree with. i think the gun was out. he was not looking at a street sign. he was following to see and tell the cops where he was -- >> but he didn't intend to shoot trayvon martin. >> someone that intends to shoot doesn't call to report the progress. what is relevant is when he gets on the ground unless the prosecution shows he was the aggressor and pu
martin to -- from george zimmerman to trayvon martin and the only person who has testified in this entire case as to whether or not that gun stayed holstered the entire time has been the man who is charged with the murder -- >> right -- >> of trayvon martin. >> john kelly, what do you think of that? >> going to what zimmerman's options are. he could have stayed in the car, left the gun in the car, followed 30 feet behind him. we don't know how the confrontation started....
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doesn't trayvon martin have the right to self-defense? >> here is the problem, ben crump, is many people will have absolute sympathy, but you say chase the evidence. it seemed there was a real shift by the state case in saying look, we concede that trayvon martin was probably on top of george zimmerman. now if you're that jury and you hear that u-turn on such a crucial piece of information, regardless of what happened in the buildup, we don't know who actually may have started the fight, regardless of that you're now left with a jury that believes trayvon was on top, and they are more likely than not to assume that the voice crying out for help is the person underneath. >> piers, it has always been our contention that there was some struggle, and if trayvon defended himself against a strange man who confronted him, he had every right to do so. but the cries for help, all of that is inconsequential when you think who started this. who was the initial aggressor? are you telling me if your child is walking home from 7-eleven and some strange
doesn't trayvon martin have the right to self-defense? >> here is the problem, ben crump, is many people will have absolute sympathy, but you say chase the evidence. it seemed there was a real shift by the state case in saying look, we concede that trayvon martin was probably on top of george zimmerman. now if you're that jury and you hear that u-turn on such a crucial piece of information, regardless of what happened in the buildup, we don't know who actually may have started the fight,...
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will they find him guilty or not guilty of killing trayvon martin. the most we've heard from the defendant himself. >> did you now have sufficient time to discuss with your attorneys whether or not you wanted to testify in this case? >> yes, your honor. >> i don't need to know what was said but after those discussions, have you made a decision? >> yes, your honor. >> what is your decision, sir. >> after consulting with counsel, not to testify, your honor. >>> so, he won't testify but his defense attorney mark o'mara is talking, striking a confident turn after today's dramatic session. >> i think we have a very, very good chance with the jury right now and with the evidence as presented. he's already given his story or statement five, six, seven times now so the jury has that and we just decided that there was enough evidence in there that we don't need to present any more. >> both sides using high drama with each holding a foam dummy did demonstrate the confrontation that ended trayvon martin's life. >>> dramatic stuff with this dummy and also, seeme
will they find him guilty or not guilty of killing trayvon martin. the most we've heard from the defendant himself. >> did you now have sufficient time to discuss with your attorneys whether or not you wanted to testify in this case? >> yes, your honor. >> i don't need to know what was said but after those discussions, have you made a decision? >> yes, your honor. >> what is your decision, sir. >> after consulting with counsel, not to testify, your honor....
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he was profiling trayvon martin. i believe that all of those things are true, and i wouldn't be surprised if the jury thought that was true, but that's really not the issue. the issue is was this case proved beyond a reasonable doubt when focussing on the evidence, and i don't think that it's been. >> i agree. >> let me ask you about the jury itself. we've got six women, five are mothers. to me, when sybrina fulton gave her evidence, that was incredibly powerful and seen her walking out of the courtroom unable to see or hear certain parts of testimony involving her son. that has to hit home with mothers. that has to at some stage hit home. >> as you know, i was part of the o.j. simpson defense team and i sat in front of the simpson family and the goldman family and they were visibly moved every single solitary day. and everyone in that courtroom felt for them but at the end of the day you have to put that aside if you follow the the judge's instructions and most jurors do and focus on the evidence. you feel for the p
he was profiling trayvon martin. i believe that all of those things are true, and i wouldn't be surprised if the jury thought that was true, but that's really not the issue. the issue is was this case proved beyond a reasonable doubt when focussing on the evidence, and i don't think that it's been. >> i agree. >> let me ask you about the jury itself. we've got six women, five are mothers. to me, when sybrina fulton gave her evidence, that was incredibly powerful and seen her walking...
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that trayvon martin was up to no good. and that was what led to his death. >> and that's exactly the point, that this was a teen-ager who had done nothing wrong, was walking through a community he had every right to be in and it went on from there but it was a strong beginning for the prosecution. >> i also thought it was very effective by bernie de la rionda was the way he weaved together all the statements george had given and interviews he'd given to the media, pointing out inconsistencies and suggests that he'd been almost rein reinventing parts of what happened according to the questions he'd been asked. >> this was a luxury provided by the defendant himself because he made so many statements. he'd made a number of them to police. a lot of them were audiotapes, he made videotape reenactments, he'd been on television telling me about what he did. so they took all those words in the trial and used it against him and bernie summed it up again today, only he called those inconsistencies certainly else. he called them lies
that trayvon martin was up to no good. and that was what led to his death. >> and that's exactly the point, that this was a teen-ager who had done nothing wrong, was walking through a community he had every right to be in and it went on from there but it was a strong beginning for the prosecution. >> i also thought it was very effective by bernie de la rionda was the way he weaved together all the statements george had given and interviews he'd given to the media, pointing out...
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if it was george zimmerman's voice, if trayvon martin and he got into an altercation, and trayvon really was smashing his head into the concrete and he really was screaming out and genuinely feared his life might be in danger, would that give him justification for taking the action that he did. >> i think that's strong justification for self-acquittal. on the other hand i think if you feel that it was trayvon martin yelling out and screaming, it's a very different case. >> here's the problem, we just don't know that. we're not going to know that, we're not going to know so many things about this, the only two people who know, one is dead, trayvon martin. and one is george zimmerman, fighting for his -- not for his life, but fighting for his freedom. either way, he could be found guilty of manslaughter and still get 20 years because trayvon was 17 years old. >> that's very true, and that may be justice in the case, you're absolutely right, it's a circumstantial case, the evidence is circumstantial. the evidence is really what story you believe. the defense is telling a very different stor
if it was george zimmerman's voice, if trayvon martin and he got into an altercation, and trayvon really was smashing his head into the concrete and he really was screaming out and genuinely feared his life might be in danger, would that give him justification for taking the action that he did. >> i think that's strong justification for self-acquittal. on the other hand i think if you feel that it was trayvon martin yelling out and screaming, it's a very different case. >> here's...
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. >> trayvon martin, he was staying, he was there legally. he hadn't broken in or trespassed. he was there legally. he bought skittles and water mel lean or iced tea or whatever. that was his crime. >>> six women, five mothers will decide if zimmerman murdered trayvon martin or acted in self-defense. the jury may consider the lesser charge of manslaughter. that's important for the state and they hammered at the notion the unarmed black teenager was the aggressor. >> why does this defendant get out of the car if he thinks that trayvon martin is a threat to him? why? why? because he's got a gun. he's got the equalizer. he's going to take care of it. he's a want to be cop. >> we begin with martin savidge outside the courthouse in sanford. martin, what a day. highly emotional that closing argument from the prosecutor. i found it gripping to watch, and i have to say, if i was a member of that jury, compelling. >> right. let me point out the closing statement differed from the opening statement. a physical blow when they delivered the string of curse words at the beginning but today
. >> trayvon martin, he was staying, he was there legally. he hadn't broken in or trespassed. he was there legally. he bought skittles and water mel lean or iced tea or whatever. that was his crime. >>> six women, five mothers will decide if zimmerman murdered trayvon martin or acted in self-defense. the jury may consider the lesser charge of manslaughter. that's important for the state and they hammered at the notion the unarmed black teenager was the aggressor. >> why...